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class=\"screen-reader-text\">Advertisement<\/span> <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<section id=\"stickybar\" class=\"stickybar stickybar--newsletter js-stickybar\" readability=\"0.82\"> <button class=\"stickybar__close js-stickybar-close\" aria-controls=\"stickybar\"> <svg class=\"icon icon--close\" width=\"21\" height=\"22\" viewBox=\"0 0 21 22\" fill=\"none\"><path d=\"m.822.518-.805.805L9.695 11 .017 20.678l.805.805 9.678-9.678 9.677 9.678.806-.805L11.305 11l9.678-9.677-.806-.805-9.677 9.677L.822.518Z\" fill=\"currentColor\" \/><\/svg> <span class=\"visually-hidden\">Close<\/span> <\/button> <\/section>\n<article class=\"single-article content\">\n<div class=\"single-article__container js-single-article-content\">\n<header class=\"single-article__header \" readability=\"26.549796747967\">\n<div class=\"single-article__header-content\" readability=\"32.890070921986\">\n<p> Tech leaders from the VA and Treasury say their relationships with CISA have improved, but they\u2019re looking for more top-down, specific guidance from the cyber agency. <\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<div class=\"single-article__cover-wrap\">\n<figure class=\"single-article__cover\"> <img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" width=\"640\" height=\"437\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/ddi.mohflo.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/federal-it-officials-call-on-cisa-for-tougher-standards-more-coordination.jpg?resize=640%2C437&ssl=1\" class=\"single-article__cover-image wp-post-image\" alt decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ddi.mohflo.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/federal-it-officials-call-on-cisa-for-tougher-standards-more-coordination-2.jpg 5078w, https:\/\/ddi.mohflo.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/federal-it-officials-call-on-cisa-for-tougher-standards-more-coordination-2.jpg?resize=300,205 300w, https:\/\/ddi.mohflo.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/federal-it-officials-call-on-cisa-for-tougher-standards-more-coordination-2.jpg?resize=768,525 768w, 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https:\/\/ddi.mohflo.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/federal-it-officials-call-on-cisa-for-tougher-standards-more-coordination-2.jpg?resize=988,675 988w, https:\/\/ddi.mohflo.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/02\/federal-it-officials-call-on-cisa-for-tougher-standards-more-coordination-2.jpg?resize=1234,843 1234w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 988px) 100vw, 988px\"><figcaption> CISA Director Jen Easterly testifies alongside Commander of the U.S. Cyber Command Gen. Paul Nakasone during a hearing on Capitol Hill on Jan. 31, 2024 in Washington, D.C. (Photo by Kevin Dietsch\/Getty Images) <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/header>\n<div class=\"single-article__content\">\n<div class=\"single-article__content-inner has-drop-cap\"> <html readability=\"73.429949604032\"><body readability=\"149.61045130641\"><\/p>\n<p>The Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency has proven to be a critical partner and resource over the past five years for federal cybersecurity. But as CISA enters the second half of its first decade, the cyber agency and its Joint Cyber Defense Collaborative should focus on better governmentwide coordination and tougher security standards, a panel of federal IT officials said this week.<\/p>\n<p>During a Center for Strategic & International Studies <a href=\"https:\/\/www.csis.org\/events\/shaping-future-federal-cybersecurity-insights-fcebs\">panel discussion<\/a>, tech leaders from the Treasury Department and the Department of Veterans Affairs detailed the ways in which they\u2019re pleased with and frustrated by CISA, expressing an overarching sentiment that while the agency has been helpful, there\u2019s room for improvement as it matures.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe need really common operating standards to which we are aggressively held, versus this sort of voluntary, participative notion \u2014 \u2018get in touch with us when you need it\u2019 kind of thing,\u201d said Jeff King, Treasury\u2019s principal deputy chief information officer. <\/p>\n<p>Amber Pearson, deputy chief information security officer at the Department of Veterans Affairs, largely agreed, noting that she\u2019d like to see \u201cmore expansion from CISA\u201d when it comes to \u201cthose key areas.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"ad ad--inline_1 \">\n<div class=\"ad__inner\"> <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Advertisement<\/span> <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>\u201cWhen a cloud service provider, for example, misses that critical patch or there\u2019s a threat indicator, you know, provide it to us,\u201d she said. \u201cWhat are those actions that we as a federal agency need to do next? And I think there\u2019s a big gap there.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Jeff Spaeth, the VA\u2019s deputy CISO and executive director of information security operations, said the agency\u2019s relationship with CISA has \u201creally blossomed this year,\u201d pointing to check-ins on a nearly weekly basis and the assignments of dedicated CISA representatives to the VA. <\/p>\n<p>But Spaeth also echoed Pearson\u2019s comments on information-sharing. When CISA is \u201cnotified by some of these major vendors [of a vulnerability], and I\u2019m not saying they don\u2019t pass the information along, but sometimes it takes a while to get down [into some of the] really in-depth technical pieces instead of, \u2018hey, this was a compromise,\u2019\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>Many of the comments made during Tuesday\u2019s panel mirrored findings from an October 2023 CSIS report, titled \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.csis.org\/analysis\/cisas-evolving-gov-mission-defending-united-states-federal-executive-agency-networks\">CISA\u2019s Evolving .gov Mission: Defending the United States\u2019 Federal Executive Agency Networks<\/a>.\u201d The report called for major investments into the federal cybersecurity workforce, better preparation for cyber threats brought on by artificial intelligence and machine learning, and the adoption of a more standardized and centralized cyber defense strategy, akin to the Department of Defense Information Network.<\/p>\n<p>The topic of defense came up frequently during Tuesday\u2019s panel. King pointed specifically to two <a href=\"https:\/\/cyberscoop.com\/microsoft-china-hacking-state\/\">Microsoft<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/cyberscoop.com\/microsoft-critics-accuse-the-firm-of-negligence-in-latest-breach\/\">breaches<\/a> over the past year in which \u201csignificant portions\u201d of the tech giant\u2019s corporate infrastructure were \u201ccompletely compromised, including the teams that do vulnerability management and incident response threat intelligence.\u201d In cases like that, King said agency IT leaders look to CISA to \u201cbalance out the risk landscape.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"ad ad--inline_1 \">\n<div class=\"ad__inner\"> <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Advertisement<\/span> <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>That was also the case with a <a href=\"https:\/\/cyberscoop.com\/lockbit-boeing-ransomware-com\/\">Citrix vulnerability last October<\/a>. A senior CISA official said at the time that the agency notified nearly 300 organizations that could have been vulnerable to the exploit. In exploits of that kind, King said that Treasury would \u201cneed [indicators of compromise] yesterday.\u201d <\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe really need to kind of rethink the recover-and-respond part of this and less about the protect-and-defend part of it,\u201d King said. \u201cAnd I think that\u2019s where CISA probably needs the opportunity to grow to kind of meet the threat where they are.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The consensus from the panelists on the role of the Joint Cyber Defense Collaborative was that the CISA-managed nerve center \u2014 where federal, state and local and private cybersecurity experts come together to work on \u201cactionable cyber risk information\u201d \u2014 is on the right track but still in its infancy.<\/p>\n<p>Going forward, Spaeth would like to see even more collaboration and involvement among federal agencies as part of the JCDC, which <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cisa.gov\/topics\/partnerships-and-collaboration\/joint-cyber-defense-collaborative\/jcdc-faqs\">counts<\/a> the Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Cyber Command, the National Security Agency, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Department of Justice, and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, among others, as participants. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cI know that we have <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nationalisacs.org\/\">ISACs<\/a> out there,\u201d Spaeth said, \u201cbut I think JCDC has really taken the charge for all federal agencies to share that type of information, or [coordinating] the quick reactions and trying to close the holes as quickly as possible.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"ad ad--inline_1 \">\n<div class=\"ad__inner\"> <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Advertisement<\/span> <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>The agency representatives\u2019 feelings on CISA and JCDC mostly aligned with private sector assessments shared Tuesday during a House Homeland Security Subcommittee on Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Protection <a href=\"https:\/\/homeland.house.gov\/hearing\/securing-operational-technology-a-deep-dive-into-the-water-sector\/\">hearing<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>Rob Lee, CEO and founder of Dragos, a company that focuses on operational technology and industrial control system cybersecurity, said it\u2019s important to recognize that agencies like CISA are \u201cputting in the effort to collaborate and that\u2019s a beautiful thing,\u201d but acknowledged that the JCDC is still suffering from \u201cgrowing pains.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe reality is we\u2019re not seeing a lot of success out of [the JCDC] currently, but I think that\u2019s the growing pains,\u201d Lee said. \u201cWhen government ends up focusing, especially CISA, on the \u2018here is the strategy\u2019 level, it\u2019s very effective. \u2026 When it gets to the tactical and actually having the experts around the table, that tends to be a bit lacking.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Approaching security from a more defined and risk-based approach wouldn\u2019t necessarily be an easy shift for CISA or the JCDC, the agency officials acknowledged. But focusing more on the latest threat vectors and threat actors as opposed to \u201cports, protocols and services,\u201d Spaeth said, is a worthy target. <\/p>\n<p>\u201cThere needs to be, I think, more formulation if this is the way we\u2019re going into a top-down, enforceable strategy,\u201d King said. \u201cAnd I recognize that is very much a divergence from the way that we\u2019ve thought about cyber and acted on cyber probably over the past decade, if not two.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"ad ad--inline_1 \">\n<div class=\"ad__inner\"> <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Advertisement<\/span> <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><em>CyberScoop reporter Derek B. 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