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(Photo courtesy of Jack Cable) <\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/header>\n<div class=\"single-article__content\">\n<div class=\"single-article__content-inner has-drop-cap\"> <html readability=\"49.29940454038\"><body readability=\"105.02314814815\"><\/p>\n<p>One of the chief architects of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency campaign to get software developers to design their products with security in mind said he believes it could be one of the best tools the Trump administration has to counter China.<\/p>\n<p>Jack Cable, who is departing his role as senior technical adviser Thursday, said major hacking campaigns by Chinese hacker groups \u2014 like <a href=\"https:\/\/cyberscoop.com\/tag\/salt-typhoon\/\">Salt Typhoon\u2019s<\/a> breach of telecommunications companies and <a href=\"https:\/\/cyberscoop.com\/easterly-crowdstrike-china-volt-typhoon\/\">Volt Typhoon\u2019s<\/a> infiltration of U.S. critical infrastructure networks in advance of any Taiwan conflict \u2014 underline the necessity of the secure-by-design initiative.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe know this is happening, and we know all too often this is leveraging vulnerabilities in network edge devices, and they are relatively simple vulnerabilities,\u201d Cable told CyberScoop in an interview, referring to devices like routers. \u201cMost of them are on the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cisa.gov\/resources-tools\/resources\/product-security-bad-practices\">product security bad practices list<\/a> we published at CISA that we know have been preventable for decades, and not only that, software manufacturers have also known how to prevent these at scale for decades.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI hope that the incoming administration can recognize that we do have a real ability to partner with the manufacturers of these edge devices,\u201d he said. \u201cThe Trump administration has made it clear that they are going to be very active in defending against threats from the PRC [People\u2019s Republic of China].\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"ad ad--inline_1 \">\n<div class=\"ad__inner\"> <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Advertisement<\/span> <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Secure by design was one of Cable\u2019s two focus areas at CISA, along with open-source security.<\/p>\n<p>At the idea phase, secure by design didn\u2019t begin with much partnership at all, according to Cable. When the agency brought a draft pledge to companies seeking public commitments to secure-by-design principles, Cable said the answer back was, \u201cthis isn\u2019t going to get any traction.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>So CISA workshopped ideas with industry and came back with something Cable said was ambitious, but also something that wasn\u2019t unrealistic.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s a voluntary pledge, one without any mechanisms to force companies to follow up. That doesn\u2019t mean it hasn\u2019t been successful, Cable said. That\u2019s because of other kinds of pressure.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cPart of the reason that pledge has been so effective is that it\u2019s able to really motivate companies to do better, partially through peer pressure, partially through wanting to align with CISA and other governments who have been really defining what it means to be secure by design,\u201d he said. \u201cWe\u2019ve now seen over <a href=\"https:\/\/cyberscoop.com\/cisa-secure-by-design-software-bad-practices\/\">250 companies sign on to the pledge<\/a>, ranging from some of the largest in the world \u2014 like Google, Microsoft, Amazon Web Services \u2014&nbsp; to startups and everything in between.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"ad ad--inline_1 \">\n<div class=\"ad__inner\"> <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Advertisement<\/span> <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>And they\u2019re not empty commitments, either, Cable said, pointing to the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cisa.gov\/securebydesign\/pledge\/progress-reports\">progress reports<\/a> CISA has published on its website.&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>CISA isn\u2019t just pushing secure by design on behalf of the broader community, but also the federal government itself, which, as in the case of a recent breach at the <a href=\"https:\/\/cyberscoop.com\/treasury-workstations-hacked-china-beyondtrust-identity-access-management\/\">Treasury Department<\/a>, is sometimes the victim of cyberattacks, too. Cross-agency cooperation to secure federal networks can only accomplish so much without vendors acting responsibly, CISA Director Jen Easterly said Wednesday in remarks at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cAre we still going to have issues like what we saw in Treasury?\u201d she said. \u201cYes, we will, until you have vendors that we know are specifically focused on secure-by-design software.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Congress may have a hand in the next steps, Easterly said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe really need to focus on what we need to do to ensure that technology manufacturers and software providers are designing and developing and testing and deploying and delivering software that is specifically designed to dramatically drive down the number of exploitable flaws, and so that\u2019s the campaign around secure by design,\u201d she said. \u201cI do think Congress could play a really important role in this.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"ad ad--inline_1 \">\n<div class=\"ad__inner\"> <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Advertisement<\/span> <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Some potential Trump cyber nominees have said the administration would be <a href=\"https:\/\/cyberscoop.com\/trump-cybersecurity-second-term-white-house-cisa\/\">likely to roll back<\/a> Biden administration cyber regulations. But there are also <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wired.com\/story\/cisa-cuts-trump-2\/\">reportedly doubts<\/a> within CISA and the Biden administration that the new administration is likely to support things like secure by design.<\/p>\n<p>Industry officials have said the program is a good one, albeit <a href=\"https:\/\/cyberscoop.com\/cisa-secure-by-design-house-hearing\/\">with some flaws<\/a>. Other CISA officials <a href=\"https:\/\/cyberscoop.com\/departing-top-cisa-official-reflects-on-nearly-four-years-in-the-cyber-hot-seat\/\">have praised the initiative<\/a> as they have exited government work.<\/p>\n<p>Cable, who\u2019s worked everywhere from the Hill to the private sector to the defense side, as well as the civilian government side at 24 years of age, said he next plans to start his own company. Its focus? Something in the realm of \u201chelping companies to develop more secure code\u201d in their products, he said.<\/p>\n<p><em>Derek B. 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